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Baruch Hasofer's avatar

He made them build B2B SAAS afterwards? Now THAT'S degrading.

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Jonathan Cioran's avatar

man, you're still lurking the comments. It seems like this really got under your skin!

AEIOU's avatar

“Still better than B2C” – a friend from a GC

Ahmed’s Stack of Subs's avatar

“Thiel has a curious mind and is always looking for new points of entry”

/golf clap & cap doff

Andre Shumpert's avatar

I hear he’s a good recipient bonafide ASSertions as well.

Margaret Weant's avatar

Well. Now we know the answer to Vance and Thiel. That’s likely how Vance learned to use eyeliner….

Paolo Biscotto's avatar

But Vance never looked like a male model. That’s the puzzling thing.

Elizabeth Alexander's avatar

Perfect person to groom and manipulate for the role Vance has now.

Chris McKinney's avatar

Yes but he is willing to do absolutely anything to advance politically… apparently…anything…

Seldon Crisis Log's avatar

Maybe Thiel loved Vance for his personality. /s

DR Darke's avatar

"Maybe Thiel loved Vance for his personality. /s"

You mean, none?

So he was easy to mold into what Thiel wanted...?

Paolo Biscotto's avatar

Yes, he has such a sparkling personality. That might be it.

MeaPoetria's avatar

Vance isnt “hot”. Vance has ti get ahead via Erika Kirk and the whole Christian Nationalism thing.

Saint Jimmy's avatar

The United States is a very, very sick country - financially, intellectually, and morally - and most of the world knows...

Elizabeth Alexander's avatar

The level of despair i have reached about the USA at this stage cannot be described. I will never go there again. I feel this degradation is spreading.

DR Darke's avatar

I feel the same way, and I LIVE here.

Elizabeth Alexander's avatar

and it touches all shores…

Luci's avatar

It’s like an abscess, the infection is huge & we just pierced the lining so it’s all spilling out everywhere.

Bilbo Baggins's avatar

I am a lifelong U.S.A. citizen, and my experience is that you are correct.

The only thing I might quibble with is that I suspect you describe a specific point in the range of human nature, rather just one nation.

Though it is manifesting itself worse here in recent years.

Alice Wiltshire's avatar

"Billionaires are very sick -". There, I fixed it for you.

Lissa's avatar

Thiel is an absolutely heinous person. Spend 10 minutes on the internet and you can find his history from his Natzi racist father through his disdain and abuse of lgbtq - even though he is married to a man. Thiel is one of the heads of Heritage Foundation and project 2025. Most of what is happening in our country he is behind.

DR Darke's avatar

"Thiel is an absolutely heinous person. Spend 10 minutes on the internet and you can find his history from his Natzi racist father through his disdain and abuse of lgbtq - even though he is married to a man. Thiel is one of the heads of Heritage Foundation and project 2025. Most of what is happening in our country he is behind."

I've long suspected he was—this just makes it even more...probable.

Brigitte's avatar

I don’t care if he’s gay but it was obvious he was ashamed of it and hated being outed. He seems a brutal and nihilistic sort. He supports some creepy people and groups. I don’t think the typical MAGA churchgoing family would find him the savory sort. That is why the whole regime is built upon hypocrisy.

Claire N's avatar

He often brought his boyfriend(s) to parties and the whole Silicon Valley knew about it. However. what Gawker did made him lose some important contracts with the Saudis, and apparently there were problems with his parents (who were old Republicans of course, although they could not adapt to life in the US and thus have moved to Sydney). That was why... He does not like the MAGA crowd, never did. He has just openly admitted to have used Trump and the "populists" to cause political disruption, which he believes to be better than "stagnation". He lives mostly in a sheltered bubble, as he could not even understand how he was "diverse", when Facebook lawyers tried to explain this to him - Marc Andreessen and Elon Musk still laugh about that until this day.

He is not "brutal" in style, but I do think the way he treated his three lovers could be considered cruel...

Seldon Crisis Log's avatar

He’s even remarked that the only places in the US he can tolerate are cities like LA, SD, Miami, NYC, Chicago, and DC. All liberal metropolitan areas, yet he pours his wealth into the very political party that opposes everything about those areas. It’s another expression of Thiel’s self loathing that arises from his sexuality.

Cathy's avatar

Exactly the group that needs to read and learn about him- churchgoing Maga and white christians. The Admin cant be making exceptions to what they would deem to be 'vileness'. Keep writing and target other groups.

DR Darke's avatar

"I don’t care if he’s gay but it was obvious he was ashamed of it and hated being outed. "

The way he went after Gawker makes that pretty obvious.

I've gotten some pushback on this, but I've always believed that Hypocrisy is the worst of the sins, because it enables all the others.

Peter Thiel is a fucking hypocrite.

allieR's avatar

Lets not forget he has bankrolled our current VP

Crimson's avatar

How about the me too scandal of silicon valley exposing boys to hardcore pornography

Dain Fitzgerald's avatar

Rachel Haywire said she had dirt on SV years back and was going to write an expose...

john king (MY HUMBLE OPINION)'s avatar

All I’ll add is the coalition supporting Trump is at such odds with each other, I can only hope they eat each other alive.

Gay tech bros/ Christian fanatics/ racist Nazis. What could go wrong?

grischanotgriska's avatar

I didn't know Thiel did business with Epstein (though I guess it's not surprising)—one of my reactions to that Douthat interview was "Peter Thiel is an intellectual in the same way Jeffrey Epstein was an intellectual."

Nicole Anderson's avatar

That was a wild overview. Thiel has been on an antichrist kick ever since.

Narosis Thespian's avatar

are you absolutely sure he is more powerful than J.E. was? J.E. had ties to the Mossad, alphabet agencies, & royalty, theil being more cautious i can see, but being more powerful!? there is no way to prove this to me so i will retain my doubts. all that aside, excellent read, kudos!

Diana Murray's avatar

Thiel is a good old-fashioned pederast. I don't mean to sound jaded, but... this stuff has been going on since the days of the Greeks.

Still, it should be brought out into the open - these guys have a lot of power.

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PoC's avatar

Thats a generalisation with nothing to support it, gay men are no more likely to seek younger men that heteros.

Nunya's avatar

Now it makes sense the

Young men around Musk and his need to look manly by making a lot of babies. Vance fits into the specific boy Thiel likes and the many failed positions given to him, And let's not forget about Abercrombie and Fitch. It finally came out about them.

David Casaru's avatar

Wow, that is dark. What is going on with the world.

Michael's avatar

This is disappointing.

I thought it was going to involve raping dogs and then eating them.